Thursday, 21 May 2009

Mapping invisibility












David


there are few more people here who want to talk to you

13:05

Gabriela Diana

ok

13:05

David


is that ok again?

13:06

Gabriela Diana

yes

its ok

13:06

David


Hi, we are Dally and Emma

13:06

Gabriela Diana

hey I.m Diana

13:08

David


There is a wall which says "What is standing in he way of Liverpool becoming the perfect version of itself?" - it's quite interesting to see what people think would make a positive difference in the city, like skills sharing and removing cars from the roads.

13:09

Gabriela Diana

yes is interesting. i have only a mental image about the liverpool because i never been there!

i woulm like to ssee wat effect can be have on me the LIVEROOPL someday!

i would

13:10

David


well, im sure you would really like it here, there is loads going on and something for everyone to enjoy!

13:11

Gabriela Diana

what you lich much in Liverpool? maybe you know some special placewich you like more?

like

13:12

David


i really like the feel of the city, because it is big enough so that it doesn't get boring but it still feels as though you are part of the community here


And the art galleries are good!


we are going to go explore the rest of the exhibition but it was lovely talking to you!

13:13

Gabriela Diana

ok nice to meet you here on line

bye

13:13

David


bye


Gabriela Diana is offline.

12:48

Gabriela Diana

hello David!

12:49

David


hi


how are you?


sorry I didnt get back last night


there was an event hear so i couldnt access the computer

12:50

Gabriela Diana

Its ok i know you was tired!

HOW ARE YOU?

12:50

David


I am ok


there are a few more people who want to tell you about the exhibition


are you up for it?

12:51

Gabriela Diana

NOW

?

ON PA?

12:51

David


I also advertised the talk this afternoon


yes now

12:51

Gabriela Diana

OK

12:51

David


but here on face book

12:51

Gabriela Diana

OK

12:52

David


hope quite a few people will join us this afternoon


let us see

12:52

Gabriela Diana

OK

12:52

David


hiya my names hayley

12:52

Gabriela Diana

HEY Im Diana

from Romania

12:53

David


How are you doing today ?

12:53

Gabriela Diana

Fain

and you ?

12:55

David


Thats good , am Fine thanks, me and my boyfriend have just wrote down our views of a better liverpool, want to hear what we put ?

12:56

Gabriela Diana

YES is a nice city?I ,m never been there!

12:57

David


Oh you should come and visit liverpool one day , you will enjoy very much , the culture other here is growing every day

12:59

Gabriela Diana

that is amaizing because here in Romania the culture same to be somthing no imoportant!

you like the exhibitions there?

13:00

David


yes its nice to see the public having a say in the city they live in ,


well i have to go back to college now sorry , have speaking , come visit soon


x

13:00

Gabriela Diana





Day 1



David


are you still here?

16:15

Gabriela Diana

YES

16:15

David


ok


I would like you to talk to people here in the venue


is that ok?

16:16

Gabriela Diana

NOW?

16:16

David


and I want to find out about the venue and exhibition through them


yes


they are nice people

16:17

Gabriela Diana

OK ON PA?

16:17

David


just give it a go


no here on face book

16:17

Gabriela Diana

OK

16:18

David


hello diana, this is suzy & lucille in FACT

16:18

Gabriela Diana

HELLO

16:19

David


where are you?

16:19

Gabriela Diana

Nice to meet you

i.m in Romania Oradea

16:19

David


are you in an art gallery?

16:20

Gabriela Diana

ii work at the university and in in the same time

i have my owm shows

16:21

David


ok, we are just visiting liverpool galleries today, stumbled across this exhibition looking to see what was on at FACT today. Do you know much about the exhibition - A Climate for Change?

16:22

Gabriela Diana

yes I know David tell me and i seen on the internet

16:23

David


what did you think from what you saw & heard?

16:24

Gabriela Diana

i think for the internet is imposibile to have a claire ideea IS ONLUY A ESSENTIALIZATE IMAGE

16:25

David


yes, the internet is strange - often amazing but also somehow unsatisfying. I have been thinking about this a lot lately, looking on Google Streetview. I can visit places but not BE there

16:25

Gabriela Diana

I WAS RICEVED THE BASE INFORMATIONS

YES IS STANGE BUT IN THE SAME TIME VERY INTERETING

DEPENDS WHAT KIND THE PERSPECTIVE YOU HAVE ON THIS WIEW

16:26

David


this space is very unusual for a gallery today

16:27

Gabriela Diana

YES BUT IN THE SAME TIME CAN BE A AOURCE FOR NEW

16:27

David


in a good way I think! Often galleries don't want to take risks!

16:28

Gabriela Diana

AND CAN BUILD ANOTHER KIND OF ARTS WICH TRY DAVID WITH HIS PA

16:28

David


yes, I feel taken by surprise - in a good way!

16:29

Gabriela Diana

TAHNK YOU SCUZE ME BECAUSE MY ENGLISH IS NOT VERY GOOD

16:30

David


that's ok, my romanian isn't too good!

16:30

Gabriela Diana

YES I KNOW!!

16:30

David


it's nice the way people are talking to one another here, that's quite different to a lot of art shows

16:31

Gabriela Diana

YES IS KIND OF DIVERSITY IVEN IF SOMTIME TIS SAME TO VERY fragmented

16:33

Gabriela Diana

AND THIS KIND OF FRAGMETS TODAY ARE OONE OF THE GLOBALISATIONS CONDITION

IT IS PARADOXALY

16:34

David


we're talking about audience participation here now, what do you think?

16:36

Gabriela Diana

I DON.T KNOW BECAUSE I.M HERE IN MY ROOM AND I HAVE ONLY A MENTAL IMAGE WHAT NOW THERE

16:37

Gabriela Diana

BUT IS INTERETING BECAUSE I TAALK WITH THE INVISIBLE AUDIENCE!

16:37

David


we're sitting at a long desk with david, talking about the exhibition. there's a tray of strawberry plants & a collage of a baby on the table. there's a whole wall of fanzines & papers & pictures, and a large wall showing political films

16:39

Gabriela Diana

YES

16:39

David


did you see these pictures on the internet?

16:39

Gabriela Diana

no

i was red only some text about fact

but i.m not find the immage

16:41

David


it's a good space here, a lot of thought i think goes into how to display things

16:42

David


so what kind of art work do you do there?

16:43

Gabriela Diana

is impossibile to discribe and I don,t like to talk so much about muy work ... i know today all the artist want to promote his work

16:44

David


promotion seems to often be 90% of the work!!

16:44

Gabriela Diana

BUT I TRY TO CHANGE HERE THE MENTALITY BECAUSE THE SCOOL IS SOMHOW VERY TRADITIONAL

16:44

David


are you studying at art school at the moment?

16:44

Gabriela Diana

NO I.M TEACHER AT UNIVERSITY

I HAVE MADE THE STUDE 11 YEARS AGO

STUDY!

16:45

David


OK!


do you want to ask us any questions?

16:47

Gabriela Diana

YES !! WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT ROMANIA?

ABOUT ART IN ROMANIA?

16:48

David


well, not much I'm ashamed to say!

16:48

Gabriela Diana

YES I KNOW... WE GAVE A PROBLEM TO PROMOVETE OUR WORK

16:49

David


Brancusi! Tristan Tzara!

16:49

Gabriela Diana

MAYBE FOR THAT I.M VERY RESERVATED TO TALL ABOU MY WORK BECVAUSE HERE

BECAUSE HERE THE INTERES FOR THE ART IS LOW

16:49

David


do you mean in the media?

16:50

Gabriela Diana

YES NOT ONLY MEDIA BUT THE POLITICAL MEDIUNM IS THE SAME

IN ROMANIA EVERY MOUVIN IS UNDER THE INFLUENCE AT POLITICAL

AND .....

16:51

David


can you ask them about the exhibition and venue


please

16:52

Gabriela Diana

YES ...

ABOUT THE CLIMATE OF CHANGE?

16:53

David


yes

16:54

Gabriela Diana

A model of art should have a sferic space, a complex space which in theory is going to explore the multidisciplinary and interdisciplinary diversity, in a context in which the cultural information sums up in a new content, adapted to the cultural and social environment, a changeable structure with the possibility to integrate the future cultural models.

16:55

David


should be flexible? david wants you to ask us about the exhibition!

16:56

Gabriela Diana

YES OF COURSE

16:57

Gabriela Diana

because without flexibility is impossibile to build a new model ok

16:58

David


i think we have to go now. nice meeting you!

16:58

Gabriela Diana

ok

16:59

David


bye bye

16:59

Gabriela Diana

bye


Day 2


Clear Chat History

12:30

Gabriela Diana

what fell now telll me ?

this is the begining of the dialog...

David i.m confused now again!

12:31

David

why is that?

I think you keep trying to make the issues over complicated

12:32

Gabriela Diana

i don,t know maaybe because never not was blind ... i preomis you i wiil talk somtime very seroius with some blind person

promis

12:32

David

that is not the issue

it is not a question of you being blind or not blind

12:32

Gabriela Diana

yes i kow it is and not is!

12:33

David

the issue is that you are not here in the venue

you cant see the venue

so what info do you need to know something about this venue?

in other words

12:33

Gabriela Diana

to see first

ato have a metal image of the sapce

12:34

David

you are beginning to think through what is a gallery and an exhibition from the start

yes that is good

so we are looking at the blind image

12:35

Gabriela Diana

this can be for example the ligt in this space

light!

12:35

David

or invisibility of the venue as though it is equivalent to a mental image

12:35

Gabriela Diana

this invisibility block me

12:36

David

thats the idea

12:36

Gabriela Diana

i think if i wiil be blind i woult like to be quiet

would

12:36

David

because we are looking at how to build a new model of art from the beginning

12:37

Gabriela Diana

yes it is a ilusison to think i can have the solution for this new beigining ... maybe is not important to build

12:38

Gabriela Diana

is important to think

is like a torture to be blind

12:39

David

maybe

anyway I think the kids will be here in the next 30 minutes

12:39

Gabriela Diana

and you have some reserve about this

ok

12:39

David

so I need to sort out the equipment

12:40

Gabriela Diana

ok

i wiil open the skype

12:40

David

and get things ready

12:40

Gabriela Diana

ok

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12:40

David

can you try the pa chat room again

and see whether that is working

12:40

Gabriela Diana

good luck

ok

12:41

David

thanks

12:41

Gabriela Diana

i wiil try to go on PA

12:45

Gabriela Diana

David I THINK WE HAVE THE SAME PROBELEM ON PA LIKE YESTERDAY!

12:46

David

ok

just setting up skype

12:46

Gabriela Diana

OK

12:49

Gabriela Diana

DAVID I.M ON PA NOW IS OK

12:55

David

ok

I have set up the pa chat room

and skype

12:55

Gabriela Diana

OK

12:55

David

so we will start with the pa chat room

12:55

Gabriela Diana

IS HAPPEBD SOMTHINK WITG PA WE GO OPN SKYPE?

12:55

David

and fall back to the skype chat room if there is a problem

yes

12:56

Gabriela Diana

OK

12:57

David

I just want to find out whether other people can join in

12:57

Gabriela Diana

OK

13:22

Gabriela Diana

what happend?

13:22

David


still waiting

13:22

Gabriela Diana

hopw you fell???????

13:22

David


the teacher with the kids turned up 10 minutes ago


then went off to the media


lounge


they said they will be back when they have finished

13:23

Gabriela Diana

ok we have time

until tahn we can talk if you want

13:24

David


yes ok


just need to go to the loo first

13:24

Gabriela Diana

you ;loke there

?

like

13:25

David


where?

13:25

Gabriela Diana

in the space of venue is nice?

or liverpool??

13:25

David


yes


not bad


it is suppose to be the best new media venue in the uk

13:26

Gabriela Diana

this not bad mind you are not exaited!

happy?

content?

13:26

David


I am happy to be in the exhibition


ok there is someone else


who would like to talk to you


about the show


is that ok?

13:27

Gabriela Diana

yes

Ia a show now there?

13:27

David


Hi its Andrew from Australia visiting

13:28

Gabriela Diana

and what ge do on the show?

WHO IS ANDREW?

13:29

David


just a spectator come to take a look - interesting format with the artists in an accessible workshop format

13:29

Gabriela Diana

a ok is a virtual exhibitions is your blind space

and what he think about this

13:31

David


i'm (andrew) interested in the venue as I'm an arts adminstrator in Australia

13:31

Gabriela Diana

I.m Diana from rOMANIA

what tyou think about the venue there?

13:32

David


I'm currently working on a large project in Australia looking at the design of a new media/experimental space in Sydney


the space is very relaxed and inviting - encouraging you to interact with the artist/s

13:33

Gabriela Diana

Interesting and how you see the exxperimental space in general ?

yes the postautonomy make this research to

13:35

David


A place where a number of artists can interact - try/pilot new ideas - particularly in relation to new technologies

13:36

Gabriela Diana

and this ideas are link with prective in your project or all is in the virtual space

?

practice

13:38

David


no probably around 1000 sqm of flexible space that can either be exhibtion, project or collaborative workshop space.


My apologies i must go now - good luck with the rest of the project

13:39

Gabriela Diana

ok

good luck ! bye

13:39

David


ok they have gone

13:39

Gabriela Diana

ok

13:40

David


how was that

13:41

Gabriela Diana

i would like to talk more with him ...

13:41

David


unfortunately they have gone


as soon as someone else comes in

13:41

Gabriela Diana

You are allone now there?

13:41

David


I will see whether they are interested in talking


yes

13:42

Gabriela Diana

NO I,M VIRTUAL THERE...